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Username Post: Another Unusual WWII Mark II Knife        (Topic#938605)
Daniel Nighteyes
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04-28-14 08:09.30 - Post#2599906    



Folks,

Just re-discovered these pics. I had intended to include them in my earlier "Mark II" thread. However, for whatever reason, I didn't.

This is an early-war, blade-marked USMC Camillus. What makes it unusual, and what caused me to buy it, is that it has a PAL RH-36 handle! It's clearly used because there is some loss of blade profile:





So, whaddaya think?



Edited by Daniel Nighteyes on 04-28-14 08:10.49. Reason for edit: No reason given.
 


brianWE
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04-28-14 08:14.58 - Post#2599907    


    In response to Daniel Nighteyes

Theatre knife?



A nice conversation piece, anyway
brianWE
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Daniel Nighteyes
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04-28-14 08:28.28 - Post#2599908    


    In response to brianWE

  • brianWE Said:
Theatre knife?

A nice conversation piece, anyway



It truly is!!!

Each time I look at it I am filled with speculations -- none of which can be confirmed or denied without removing the PAL handle. And that, of course, is something I will never do.

 
sac troop
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04-28-14 08:31.54 - Post#2599910    


    In response to Daniel Nighteyes

Daniel, What an interesting piece!
I have "No idea".
The hilt of the knife really does remind me of a PAL. The smooth leather is known to have been used in some of their RH37's. The aluminum pommel really looks more like the kind used by PAL than the examples I've seen on various Camillus knives.

A great "curiosity", I don't think I've ever seen before.

Now I'll wait for the speculations to start up.
 
Daniel Nighteyes
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04-28-14 08:48.53 - Post#2599911    


    In response to sac troop

Sac Troop,

It is clearly a PAL RH-36 handle. I've compared it to roughly half-a-dozen RH-36 knives. Everything matches perfectly.

The only question, therefore, is WHY??? And therein lies the rub -- the only way to conclusively answer the question to remove the handle and look beneath it, which I will simply not do...

-- Nighteyes
 
sac troop
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04-28-14 09:28.38 - Post#2599917    


    In response to Daniel Nighteyes

What would you like to see from the tang? I'm sure I have a RH36 blade without the hilt attached. I may have most of the individual hilt pieces too.
Don't have a bare Camillus WW2 MK2 to compare it too but I do have drawings from both Camillus and some of the earlier drawing specs to compare them too.
Have more than a few WW2 Camillus Navy and USMC's to check measurements from.

It occurs to me that we maybe hijacking this post.
 
brianWE
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04-28-14 11:36.51 - Post#2599927    


    In response to sac troop

  • Quote:
It occurs to me that we maybe hijacking this post.



Of course not!
No one has mentioned football...not even once.
brianWE
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sac troop
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04-28-14 19:49.52 - Post#2599976    


    In response to brianWE

Australian rules football. There's no other sport I enjoy watching as much where I have no idea what the rules are.
 
brianWE
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04-28-14 20:50.00 - Post#2599977    


    In response to sac troop

Not my kind of football....I live in a Rugby League state.
Too much prancing and dancing in Australian Football. Aerial ping pong.

I have to admit, I am not a big fan of Rugby League, either.
Just follow the three game "State of Origin" series between New South Wales and Queensland each year.

At the moment, my home state of Queensland has won for 18 years in a row.....and, living in New South Wales, I get to gloat a lot.

I get a certain amount of pleasure in pointing out to NSW fans that there is no hope of equalling Queensland's record for, at least, another 18 years.

Petty?
Yeah...fun, too.

brianWE
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Daniel Nighteyes
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04-29-14 05:49.38 - Post#2600033    


    In response to sac troop

  • sac troop Said:
What would you like to see from the tang?



I'd want to see the details of THIS Mark II's tang, to see whether I could figure out if there was a specific reason for the handle-change. Though I've never seen a "screw-pommel" USMC-marked Camillus (mostly because I don't think they exist), what if it was one? And what if the 'screw-pommel' broke off as they were prone to do? (See what I mean?)

Drawings, and other tangs and handles, just couldn't provide the information I'd be seeking. Thanks.

  • sac troop Said:
It occurs to me that we maybe hijacking this post.



I don't think so. And, since its my thread, I sorta-kinda think I get to say! [Heh-heh-heh!]

-- Nighteyes
 
Daniel Nighteyes
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04-29-14 05:58.19 - Post#2600036    


    In response to sac troop

  • sac troop Said:
Australian rules football. There's no other sport I enjoy watching as much where I have no idea what the rules are.



While watching an Australian Rules Football match, my late father-in-law once exclaimed, "Damn! What does it take to get a penalty in this game?"

He loved the referees with the hats and flags. Had no idea what they were doing/signalling, of course, but he loved 'em.
 
Daniel Nighteyes
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10-30-14 07:36.19 - Post#2617437    


    In response to Daniel Nighteyes

Follow-up:

Folks, while getting my WWII Mark IIs ready for sale I was rummaging through Cole's Book III. I noticed that he had documented a PAL Mark II blade with a PAL RH-36 handle.

Though the blade of my knife is a Camillus, this got me to wondering yet again. H-m-m-m-m-m-m.....
 
brianWE
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10-30-14 11:22.17 - Post#2617449    


    In response to Daniel Nighteyes

A Quartermaster (or similar) recycling damaged or faulty stock?

Frankly, though, I doubt they would bother.
brianWE
If you want to win an argument, it is best to stick to the truth.....or,at least, provable untruths.


 


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