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Username Post: soap water on your stones!        (Topic#929164)
steelierchain9
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01-20-13 12:39.12 - Post#2526047    



Hey folks Im new to the forum here (my first post) and I want to discuss stone lubrication specifically soap water. I know many people wash their stones in it to clean them. To me it was a natural step to use it in place of a dry stone, oil, or plain water, and it works fantastically. Any and all opinions are encouraged. I want to know what works for other people and why. Also who all has sharpenned or is interested in sharpenning with soap water. I currently use it with sucess on a Norton course oilstone (220), and an Arkansas soft. PS When using bar soap thuroughly cloud the water with it or it won't have the full effect.

Edited by steelierchain9 on 01-20-13 12:40.27. Reason for edit: No reason given.
 


brianWE
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01-20-13 12:49.09 - Post#2526049    


    In response to steelierchain9

Welcome to KF!!!

An interesting post.
In fact, when I used oilstones, I experimented with straight dish detergent.
Seemed to work fine. Easy clean-up, too.
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01-20-13 15:45.37 - Post#2526095    


    In response to brianWE

I mostly use waterstones and don't use anything but clean water.

Some folks use detergent with diamond lapping plates with success.

I just find it an extra effort to deal with soapy solutions. If I get grit impaction, eother lapping the stone or with diamond plates a quick scrub with a nylon nail brush and I'm good to go again.

With more porous natural stones I wouldn't try it as you would get the liquid seepiong down into the stone and it wouldn't wash out and might break down the stone.

I just use water on Ark, stones (not even oil) but wouldn't consider myself too expert with Ark stones as I don't use them often.

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01-20-13 16:21.08 - Post#2526102    


    In response to ken123

A little bit of soap in your water will help your higher grit, 6k+, water stones work better, because soap breaks the surface tension of water. Oil works better on oil stones, but don't put too much oil on oil stones, you don't want so much oil that blade "swims" in it rather than touches the stones surface.
 
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01-21-13 04:16.24 - Post#2526173    


    In response to pcm81

Simple Green works better than oil on oil stones from everyone that I've heard try it.

I use soapy water whenever I use water, every day, on all my DMTs, water or oil stones. Even with my water cooled 2x72, a little soap makes a significant difference.
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01-21-13 04:57.00 - Post#2526183    


    In response to ytreich

Might just have to revisit this soapy water issue. Any brand of soap preferences? Dishwashing liquid or something else?

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01-21-13 05:20.24 - Post#2526192    


    In response to ken123

I've been using a little soap in water for a year or so now. I just use dish detergent and put a few drops in the water bottle.

It is especially good for polishing, just last night I was working on a Buck hunting knife for a nice old gentleman. I finished with a 15k Shapton and applied a couple drops of soap directly on the stone with a few drops of water to get it nice and soapy, I rubbed it all over the surface of the stone and then went to work, I found it definitely enhanced the finish.

(it smells nice too, like lotus blossoms or something, like I imagine it in sharpening heaven)

Pete



Edited by Navy Man on 01-21-13 05:23.45. Reason for edit: No reason given.
 
steelierchain9
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01-21-13 05:26.00 - Post#2526196    


    In response to Navy Man

I actually prefer standard hand bar soap(it's mild on the stone and my hands) but i have not used a soap yet that won't work. so no particular brand i guess. Obviously you are right there Ken123 if a stone wears fast enough it is classified as a water stone there is no need to add the soap. I don't have experience with water stones other than cheap ones as i prefer a harder surface.
 
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01-21-13 15:36.29 - Post#2526320    


    In response to steelierchain9

I use about 3-4 drops of dish detergent in a 4 oz bottle of water on my waterstones. It seems to work quite well.

I rinse the stones with copious amounts of clear warm water wehen I'm finished for the day.

Probably not necessary, but it gives me the warm fuzzies!
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ytreich
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01-21-13 16:11.31 - Post#2526333    


    In response to locutus

I use Dawn and Simple Green.

When a little soap will do, it's just a couple drops of Dawn in a quart spray bottle. I use this on water stones and DMTs. A couple drops per gallon for the 2x72. It's amazing how much better belts work with a little soapy water.

On oil stones, Simple Green works better. It's pretty darn soapy, and it works that way. It works for DMTs too, but it's way more expensive, and it's almost too slippery.

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(it smells nice too, like lotus blossoms or something, like I imagine it in sharpening heaven)

Pete



Knives don't get dull in heaven, Pete, unless you order them that way.

What the heck kind of soap is that anyway? Lol!
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Edited by ytreich on 01-21-13 16:16.08. Reason for edit: No reason given.
 


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