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    Username Post: Mission SAR-Ti        (Topic#904480)
    greenbeetle
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    06-21-11 15:15.09 - Post#2352218    





    The 7" blade, kukri style, limited production SAR-Ti knife is now available.

    Aluminum or G-10 handles available.

    1/4" tang.

    Only 45 made, all numbered.

    Weight is 10.8oz with G-10.



    Mission dealers will have them for $599 and up.






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    tonijedi
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    06-21-11 20:36.38 - Post#2352253    


        In response to greenbeetle

    Would love to try it, but at that price tag and limited production

    I wanna see pictures of it in the wilderness!
     
    greenbeetle
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    06-25-11 10:45.28 - Post#2353770    


        In response to tonijedi

    It's a unique knife. The design spans two generations at the company. The styling is awesome isn't it?

    With a titanium 1/4" tang it's a lifelong workhorse. A super durable A2 steel version may follow soon.


     
    tonijedi
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    06-25-11 23:33.43 - Post#2353925    


        In response to greenbeetle

    • greenbeetle Said:
    It's a unique knife. The design spans two generations at the company. The styling is awesome isn't it?

    With a titanium 1/4" tang it's a lifelong workhorse. A super durable A2 steel version may follow soon.





    A2 seems a very good choice for a knife like this!
    Would love to see some of your smaller knives in a good stainless steel...
     
    MikeStewart
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    06-26-11 02:55.21 - Post#2353979    


        In response to tonijedi

    • tonijedi Said:
    • greenbeetle Said:
    It's a unique knife. The design spans two generations at the company. The styling is awesome isn't it?

    With a titanium 1/4" tang it's a lifelong workhorse. A super durable A2 steel version may follow soon.





    A2 seems a very good choice for a knife like this!
    Would love to see some of your smaller knives in a good stainless steel...




    What is a good Stainless ?
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    tonijedi
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    06-26-11 03:27.54 - Post#2354004    


        In response to MikeStewart

    I'm not going to engage in those "better steel" discussions, but from what I know and use, VG-10, S30V are excellent all-around steels.
    Sure "steel snobs" are always searching for something better, which is great, but this (now common) steels with a proper heat treatment are excellent.
     
    MikeStewart
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    06-26-11 05:58.04 - Post#2354039    


        In response to tonijedi

    The VG-10 is out of the question because it is only sold to Japanese makers. Mission is an American Company.

    S30V would not be a choice I would make but the New crucible Replacement for it would be.

    CPMS35VN has all the edge holding of S30V but is Tougher and does not have the edge chipping issues of S30V.

    Another one that would be a solid choice would be CPM154. It has a little less edge holding than the other two but is even tougher for harder use.



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    tonijedi
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    06-27-11 01:40.31 - Post#2354310    


        In response to MikeStewart

    I know VG-10 is Japan made and except for some kitchen knives made for IKEA all the VG-10 knives are made in Japan. I just used it as an example.

    A couple of months ago I read S35VN's Data Sheet and as far I could understand it should perform the same as S30V but me easier to work with.

    Personally I don't like much 154CM, it's often compared with VG-10 but I prefer this last by far.

    I'm not an industrial knife maker, I just had that wish that some of Mission's knives would come up in some good stainless steel. Recently me and some friends of the bushcraft forum community here in Portugal ordered some "semi-custom" knives to the forum (industrial made according to our specifications/design). Some are in some good stainless steel, but if you ask me I don't know its name, it's some European made steel. I know it good because I used it and I sharpened it and it's good. I own knives made of metals ranging from 46HRC to 64HRC and none has let me down ever.
    I'm sure Mission can make a research and decide which steel is good for them to work with, as many variables are involved...
     
    MikeStewart
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    06-27-11 01:46.58 - Post#2354314    


        In response to tonijedi

    CPM154 and 154CM are not the Same Steel.

    The CPM version is finer Grained and has it's carbides more evenly disbursed in the Blade making it hold it's edge longer and making it tougher than the 154CM.

    I agree that there are a good number of Stainless Steels out there right now and Mission is in a position to choose the right one.

    Mission also has a number of Friends in the Industry that would be more than willing to help.


    This new Model seems to have a lot going for it from a use standpoint.

    Recurve Blades cut very well.

    I would be interested in more folks reaction to the design.
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    RickSchultz
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    06-27-11 01:51.50 - Post#2354315    


        In response to tonijedi

    Anthony did a GREAT job fixing these up. If you saw what John had done to them, most knifemakers would throw them in the trash. Anthony re-machined the entire blank(s) and these are real NICE! I suggested to him to call them Survival And Rescue, not Search And Rescue since most Search And Rescues are much smaller, have seat belt cutters, etc.

    Reading between the lines of Mikes post, I think he is saying that a tougher stainless steel is preferred for a larger knife.

    Mike, is any of the old stuff still around - ATS-34? Or does the new stuff really outperform the old stuff to the point that ATS-34 (and equivalences) would be out of the question?

    Thanks,
     


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