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    Username Post: 5160 vs 1095 Steel        (Topic#871940)
    MTHall51
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    02-17-10 14:33.26 - Post#2063145    



    Anyone know of a good comparison of these two steels?
    Trying to figure which is the better for medium outdoor/survival chopping, yet also be good as a potential defensive blade as well.
     
    brianWE
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    02-17-10 14:37.26 - Post#2063150    


        In response to MTHall51

    Just an untutored opinion...5160 would have the edge...pun was unintended.
    I suspect the difference in cost would make the 1095 a reasonable alternative, though. Both good steels.
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    marcinek
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    02-17-10 15:46.52 - Post#2063206    


        In response to brianWE

    Its a toss up.

    I might lean toward 5160, only because I am a big Ranger RD fan...they are 5160 and absolutely bomb-proof chopper/basher/destoyers.

    But really, either 1095 or 5160 will exceed your expectations.
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    Leatherface
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    02-17-10 15:56.26 - Post#2063215    


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    • marcinek Said:
    Its a toss up.

    I might lean toward 5160, only because I am a big Ranger RD fan...they are 5160 and absolutely bomb-proof chopper/basher/destoyers.

    But really, either 1095 or 5160 will exceed your expectations.



    yea that

    with the proper HT both are excellant steels


    for pure toughness/edge retention/cost I would go 5160

    I use it alot for my larger knives and cleavers


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    antonio_luiz
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    02-17-10 17:51.20 - Post#2063277    


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    • MTHall51 Said:
    Anyone know of a good comparison of these two steels?
    Trying to figure which is the better for medium outdoor/survival chopping, yet also be good as a potential defensive blade as well.




    Meh - just pattern weld the two together and you won't have to decide between them - and you'd end up with a beautiful damascus blade as well

    A "defensive" blade has more to do with overall shape/handle/carry opitons/deployment/traini ng and where & what you need to defend yourself against than the darn steel it's made from.
    I'm paranoid only cause everyone's out to get me!


     
    cody1
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    02-18-10 04:35.42 - Post#2063518    


        In response to antonio_luiz

    As I understand it, 5160 is a modified spring steel. It should have the edge in toughness, and 1095 should have the edge in abrassion resistance. Heat treat will affect these properties aswell. In real world use, it is hard to tell a big difference.
     
    B Sargent
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    02-18-10 05:43.27 - Post#2063588    


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    • cody1 Said:
    As I understand it, 5160 is a modified spring steel. It should have the edge in toughness, and 1095 should have the edge in abrassion resistance. Heat treat will affect these properties aswell. In real world use, it is hard to tell a big difference.



    That's what I hear.
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    Gator97
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    02-18-10 06:08.03 - Post#2063614    


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    • MTHall51 Said:
    Anyone know of a good comparison of these two steels?


    I can offer visual 1095 vs 5160 compositino comparison in addition to what you have already got. I didn't realize before, but 1095 has almost twice the Carbon. That alone of course isn't an indicator, and 5160 does have a reputation for tough use knives.


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    bax 40
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    02-18-10 07:00.54 - Post#2063653    


        In response to Gator97

    !095 was the main steel used in ww 2 by us I believe if that might tell you any thing about defensive use.
    If I am wrong, I am sure someone will let me know and as spmeone else said heat treat and blade grometry is as or more important as the steel.


    Just my opinion, I could be wrong.


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    antonio_luiz
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    02-18-10 08:52.05 - Post#2063734    


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    • bax 40 Said:
    !095 was the main steel used in ww 2 by us I believe if that might tell you any thing about defensive use.

    Larry







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