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    Username Post: Lapin Outdoor/Military Puukko        (Topic#855425)
    kidwholaughs
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    07-02-09 04:21.09 - Post#1878917    



    Hey Guys,

    Thank God I that I found this forum! I was wondering if any of you knowledgeable members have experience with Lapin puukkkos. Specfically, the Outdoor 90/Military Puukko. Seen her at Ragnar's.
    http://www.ragweedforge.com/3024.jp...
    I am really attracted to this knife. The question is does any of you have it? If so, how do you like it, general likes and dislikes. How comfortable is the handle for medium sized hands?
    Was it ever confirmed that these are Lauri blades?
    Thanks a ton!

    God Bless
     


    RC1947
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    07-02-09 04:56.50 - Post#1878938    


        In response to kidwholaughs

    I can't comment on that particular knife, and I haven't seen it written by the manufacturer that they use Lauri blades, yet, at the same time, I do believe that they do use Lauris, and that alone would convince me to consider a knife I've been tempted by myself, worth owning. A fact I've come to rely upon is that Ragnar will sell no junk, and that's qualification enough to choose what appeals to me. Be sure to offer your own insights after it arrives. RC


     
    kidwholaughs
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    07-03-09 05:39.24 - Post#1879940    


        In response to RC1947

    • RC1947 Said:
    I can't comment on that particular knife, and I haven't seen it written by the manufacturer that they use Lauri blades, yet, at the same time, I do believe that they do use Lauris, and that alone would convince me to consider a knife I've been tempted by myself, worth owning. ... RC



    I did email Lapin. Sure enough like you suspected, Lapin does use Lauri blades. Now this begs the next question. Is the knife "worth" 77 when I could just get the blade shipped for 20.

     
    RC1947
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    07-03-09 10:11.08 - Post#1880159    


        In response to kidwholaughs

    That depends upon your handle making skills, but then, that's why they make chisels, to remove something, like a handle. If you've never made a handle, you just might want to consider POLAR blades (another Finnish blade maker) since they have a ricasso, making for an easier slotting of the bolster. I'd say their blades are equal in quality to a Lauri. And then, there's a sheath to consider - $77 doesn't seem expensive for a quality knife, and you'd get to check out a nice handle and sheath if you do decide to make a knife of your own. RC


     
    RC1947
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    07-03-09 10:19.46 - Post#1880166    


        In response to RC1947

    http://www.ragweedforge.com/wj-n.jp...

    This wood jewel is a similar knife for considerably less cost. I like the design of this thing. RC


     
    foxhunter
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    07-03-09 20:33.15 - Post#1880456    


        In response to RC1947

    looks good and sturdy. Had Lapin Puukko knives in my hands once at the shop as I was considering the Army heritage model.
    What I personally disliked with most Lapin puukkos is the tang not going through the entire handle.

    However a rugged design if you do not want too much of a luxury.
    Goert.

    the sharper your knife - the easier your life!


    see you at the Fällkniven forum


     
    kidwholaughs
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    07-04-09 03:26.56 - Post#1880633    


        In response to RC1947

    • RC1947 Said:
    http://www.ragweedforge.com/wj-n.jp...

    This wood jewel is a similar knife for considerably less cost. I like the design of this thing. RC



    Wow, the wood jewel looks like it has a Lauri skinner blade. But with MUCH more work in the handle and sheath. I wonder what accounts for the price difference. It seems like a no brainer.

    God Bless
     
    kidwholaughs
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    07-04-09 03:39.15 - Post#1880648    


        In response to foxhunter

    • foxhunter Said:
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    What I personally disliked with most Lapin puukkos is the tang not going through the entire handle.

    However a rugged design if you do not want too much of a luxury.



    Holy Cow, are you sure that the tang doesn't go all the way through the handle? May be it is sliver braised to the butt plate. Otherwise, that would be a flaw in the construction.

    God Bless
     
    monkeyboy
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    07-04-09 05:25.24 - Post#1880706    


        In response to kidwholaughs

    i have a Kero skinner. same as the Lapin. excellent knife and real sharp outta the box. yipe.LOL
    sliced my finger.
    nice reindeer butt and masur birch handle.
    full tang too,peined with a brass ring
    $50. can't beat that.
    go for it.
    buzz
    the universe in a drop of water


     
    monkeyboy
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    07-04-09 05:41.45 - Post#1880718    


        In response to monkeyboy



    this is the knife ,only mine has a nicer figured birch.
    i paid $50 at The Northener two years ago.
    $114 now .
    it's the Lauri skinner blade threw tang
    buzz

    i think i'd make my own if i were you.
    good way to become familiar with your gear and what a sense of accomplishment when you make your own. RC and Goert and Mike will testify ,eh?

    $15 bucks for the blade from Ben's backwoods and i'm sure you can get some cool wood from a forum member. eh?

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    RC1947
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    07-04-09 06:07.19 - Post#1880739    


        In response to monkeyboy

    Nice knife, Buzz

    "...a flaw in the construction."(?) I don't think so, RC


     
    RC1947
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    07-04-09 06:16.11 - Post#1880747    


        In response to RC1947



     
    kidwholaughs
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    07-04-09 06:19.20 - Post#1880749    


        In response to monkeyboy

    MB, That knife is really cool. I am surprised how prices have shot up so much in the past 2 years. I am not the best person for making handles. I have a Lauri PT blade that is on it's second handle. It seems that I just can't seem to get the handle the way I want it. There are always hot spots on the handles that I make.

    RC, I thought that having a tang that does not run back to the butt cap will be weaker than having the tang braised onto the butt cap.

    God Bless
     
    RC1947
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    07-04-09 07:08.35 - Post#1880785    


        In response to kidwholaughs

    When shaping a handle use your hand as a guide, it won't lie. Some superb knives have short tangs, and when built right, number one, we'd never know how short the tang is, and the knife will not let you down. In other words, it's not a concern how long the tang is - most of the stress is where the blade meets the handle, not 2 - 3" back into the handle. For reference, check out a Brusletto Hunter blade, and then check the finished knife. The aluminum bolster is hollow, and so, there's only about 1" of the tang into the wood. I own one, and I can assure you that you cannot break that knife. Other, long time, builders here do very few tang-thru builds; it's not necessary. I build some, like the one shown, tang-thru, but it's only for the challenge it presents, and for aesthetics. I've never heard of a tang breaking somewhere in the handle, especially a Scandi, and furthermore, I don't believe Ragnar would consider selling knives that would fail under hard use, and if anyone knows knives, he does. When getting into contouring handles, I feel that to purchase a few Scandis is a worthy study in handle design, informing me of what works, and why. Ask SporK, he's quite good at handle design, and if he'll post some pics for you to study, you'll learn something. RC


     
    foxhunter
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    07-05-09 02:32.26 - Post#1881220    


        In response to kidwholaughs

    • kidwholaughs Said:
    • foxhunter Said:

    What I personally disliked with most Lapin puukkos is the tang not going through the entire handle.

    However a rugged design if you do not want too much of a luxury.



    Holy Cow, are you sure that the tang doesn't go all the way through the handle? May be it is sliver braised to the butt plate. Otherwise, that would be a flaw in the construction.

    God Bless



    Some don´t.
    With this pommel buttplate I am not defintively sure however.
    Finally the fac tthat some of their models don´t feature full length tangs made me stay off from purchasing one and discover later.
    Goert.

    the sharper your knife - the easier your life!


    see you at the Fällkniven forum


     
    rybak
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    07-07-09 06:35.01 - Post#1882974    


        In response to kidwholaughs

    I don't know this Military Lapin Puukko, but had some Lapins - no more now - and the best one was for me the "hunter knife", at ragweed forge #3029, this one:

    http://www.ragweedforge.com/3029.jp...

    The edge holding had really knocked me out.

    It has also very comfortable handle, but the blade was "the" amazing part.
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    kidwholaughs
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    07-08-09 01:39.48 - Post#1883597    


        In response to foxhunter

    Alright guy, I emailed Lapin again. It seems that this knife's tang is not connected to the butt plate like I had hoped. It only runs about 10 cm in to the handle and "special glued in". I am guessing epoxy.

    Honestly, I have never had a fixed blade with a hidden tang. For cutting purposes, I don't think there will be a difference. However, I take comfort in knowing that a knife can take a little more abuse should I really need it to do so.

    What do you guys think? Thanks

    God Bless
     
    monkeyboy
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    07-08-09 06:32.30 - Post#1883848    


        In response to kidwholaughs



    RC has probably built more puukos ..
    i'd trust his judgement on this one.
    i like to have the tang long on some builds but it can be a pain when sizing the handle and doing the glue up.
    i've even thought about spot welding a stick on some of the shorter tangs but it really is not necessary
    buzz
    check Goert's tutorial on fitting the tang end into antler. excellent work

    the last few knives i've made have the tang out the butt end. i either grind it off or glue a nut onto it.

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    RC1947
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    07-08-09 07:01.38 - Post#1883867    


        In response to monkeyboy

    It all boils down to what you want. Some folks aren't happy with anything buy a full tang, while others are pleased regardless of the building details, so long as a knife works for its intended purpose. You're picking nits. RC


     
    kidwholaughs
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    07-09-09 03:00.05 - Post#1884542    


        In response to RC1947

    I guess you are right. Some of our kitchen knives have very narrow and short tangs. But we used them for some heavy duty stuff daily for 15 years before the rusting in the handle that killed it.

     


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