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Post: USKTA needs your help! (Topic#774395)

James Nowka
Master Member KnifeNut!

Loc: MI
Reg: 11-30-99

08-06-06 07:13.43 - Post#1003078

Hi All

Having done a little investigating into the trash that was printed in the Wall Street Journal found here "How New, Deadly Pocketknives Became a $1 Billion Business" I have decided to throw my support behind the United States Knife & Tool Association and would like to ask you to do the same.

We have been loosing "Knife Rights" since the late 70's and need to start reversing this process before we are only allowed plastic kitchenware.

We have an uphill battle in front of us and its likely we will never go back to the days when I carried a pocket knife in 3rd grade, but we need to reverse this momentum before we loose the right to carry any useful tool that many of us have come to rely on to make our lives easier.

Please Join us in this effort!

Thanks

Jim

James Nowka

An army of stags led by a lion would be better than an army of lions led by a stag.

wstwood
Master Member KnifeNut!
wstwood

Loc: Eastern Oregon USA
Reg: 07-22-05

08-06-06 09:41.01 - Post#1003192
In response to James Nowka

And what can we do? Even if we inundate congress with letters, they are just going to do what THEY want. The peoples vote no longer matters in this day and age.

"When all other rights have been taken away, the right of rebellion is made perfect."

Thomas Paine.

STR
Master Member KnifeNut!

Loc: N.E.Oklahoma
Reg: 08-22-04

08-06-06 11:11.01 - Post#1003262
In response to wstwood

I agree and urge everyone to sign up for this and tell your friends.

STR

Wherever I'm at thats where I'll be.

M Carter
Journeyman KnifeNut!

Loc: Louisville, KY
Reg: 04-10-06

08-06-06 11:11.57 - Post#1003265
In response to wstwood

wstwood Said:

And what can we do? Even if we inundate congress with letters, they are just going to do what THEY want. The peoples vote no longer matters in this day and age.

I disagree. Just look at the NRA, AARP, or AMA (American Motorcyle Association). If you get enough people behind an organization they can have a tremendous amount of clout with congress.

Sacker
Journeyman KnifeNut!

Loc: West Michigan
Reg: 12-02-05

08-06-06 11:14.39 - Post#1003267
In response to James Nowka

I agree with Jim's suggestion.

The way to influence government is through a lobbying effort. That is the way government functions now, for better or for worse. Having a "voice" is the only way to let our views be known. I clicked on the site you provided and joined. It sounds like a positive effort to help protect our rights and the knives we enjoy using.

Thanks for bringing this movement to our attention.

scottg
Member

Loc: Happy Camp
Reg: 06-30-04

08-06-06 11:15.32 - Post#1003268
In response to wstwood

You're right. Complaining won't do any good. Every congressman has up to several million constituents for that job.
So get in and play the game. Who elected them? Your money? Whose money? Got any contacts there? Any cutlery firms contribute? Any large sporting groups? Know anybody important in the NRA?
Can you wrangle any decent free publicity showing your man voting in your favor? Can you make a cause out of it for holding American jobs onshore and freedoms and get others onboard and get some press that way?
Politics is a game and a business. Play by the rules like anything else.
Oh yeah, you can do something alright, but complaining ain't it.
yours, Scott

If you're not having a good time, you're missing one hell of an opportunity.

Err
Master Member KnifeNut!

Reg: 02-20-06

08-06-06 11:21.43 - Post#1003275
In response to M Carter

If i might offer an alternative perspective.

I do not do everyday carry (edc). I have kitchen knives and it is that interest that brought me here.

I would support the right of people to carry small pocket knives. I am british and as many of you will know we are quite tightly restricted with only knives under 3" being permitted and no lock knives. I think our customs are getting tight on assisted openers too.

The whole tactical knives thing causes me some disquiet. I understand that many people collect them, and that people here represent responsible knife users. But i think it must be recognised that a lot of these knives have a great appeal to angry young men, and i feel that knife and tool companies should be more responsible in terms of design and marketing.

Of course i also recognise that some of you will have different views on weapon carrying as there is a long history of it in the united states.

I think some of these companies are making a fast buck out of selling these fast opening toys, and that as they come to wider attention there will be a crackdown.

Sorry if my views seem a little confused/ I am actively considering buying a small knife for edc, and i would support people's right to do that. I want a knife that is easy to open one handed, that is sharp, and i would prefer a lock knife as i think that they are safer than nonlocking knives in use. I have childhood memories of penknives shutting in use and nearly catching my fingers.

But tactical styled knives do make me uneasy.

I don't wnat to support companies that market knives as weapons and fetishise that aspect of them. If i support USKTA am i supporting responsible and irresponsible knife makers?

Alex

JohnNSW
Member

Reg: 02-07-05

08-06-06 11:42.43 - Post#1003301
In response to Err

Try living in Australia, unless ypour job requires it, and you can prove this, it is illegal to carry ANY blade. We also have VERY restrictive firearms laws.

However, people are still being killed by both guns and knives, although the statisticians can always 'prove' that many more would have been killed or injured WITHOUT the restictions.

Restricting the availability or legal right to something does stop the average, law-abiding citizen from carrying or owning these items, but, for some strange reason, criminals do NOT observe the restrictions. Pehaps this is why they are criminals

Good luck, keep trying to get the law-makers on your side, votes do count.

John Lawrence
Australia

jlydon
Journeyman KnifeNut!
jlydon

Loc: Midwest
Reg: 02-09-04

08-06-06 11:54.34 - Post#1003322
In response to JohnNSW

According to the article,

"In 2004, the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks concluded that the hijackers in those attacks used short knives -- not box cutters -- to seize control of the planes. At the Pennsylvania crash site, 14 badly damaged knife parts were collected, and at least half have tactical-knife characteristics. But the FBI cautions that it can't be sure those parts are from knives that belonged to the hijackers."

Does anyone else see this statement as a load of BS

I can see it coming and will sign as I think it is the appropriate thing to do..

Craig_PX
Master Member KnifeNut!

Loc: Phoenix, AZ
Reg: 06-06-04

08-06-06 11:56.21 - Post#1003325
In response to JohnNSW

I signed up when Mr. Ritter was on Gun Talk.

Help protect our rights!

Join now!

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